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I've been to a few discussion boards where they keep complaining that Wolverine gets too much screen time in the movies, and how sad they are because Gambit's cameo got cut.

I liked both these characters very much, they are pretty much my favourites, but I have another view to the whole thing:

I didn't think Wolverine got as much screen time in X2 as in X-Men in spite the fact that X2 was built up around his past. But this might just be me. Wolverine is after all my fave, so I have another point of view that the people who have other faves.
As for the whole Gambit-cameo, I must be the only one that's thrilled that they cut it. Now don't get me wrong, I would love to see Gambit in the movies, but give the guy a propper introduction!

Now, this is a possibility for how they could do this:
We know that Wolverine is staying in the mansion and that X3 will probably be "the Phoenix saga". So I would like it to end with Jean giving Logan the final message that she has no interest for him. (I know she kind of did this in X2, but I have a point.) He then leaves at the end of the movie to give her space, and maybe the professor gave him another clue...
Then they can make X4 (this absolutely kills me to say,) without any Wolverine what so ever. Then they can give Gambit a propper introduction and a real amount of screen time. And then the fans will get a new love triangle to get into. :p
By X5 (hopefully we'll get this far) Hugh Jackman will have been replaced by another actor, so then they can have the new guy playing him come in.

Just a little thought. I doubt the Gambit fans will want to wait until X4 for Gambit, but with the way they're going I think it would be the best way to go.
"Just a thought... just a thought"

Why are we waiting..why are we waiting...

Date: 2003-09-15 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beluga.livejournal.com
Hehe.. I've made you a Gambit-fan and I'm so proud.. I don't know if I wanna agree with you or not. If I do, I'll betray the "Want Gambit now" part of me even tho what you say do make sense.

But as for a X4.. Nah, believe in a possible future spin-off tv series more than a fourth movie from Brian Singer.

Wolverine rocks!! (Gambit is no1 of course.. but while I'm waiting..)

xx

X4

Date: 2003-09-17 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
I was just thinking that if they make X4 without Wolverine, they should make a Wolverine movie, to show what he's up to during X4... There has been talk of a Wolverine movie, and it would be a good way for Hugh Jackman to leave his final mark on the role.

Re: Why are we waiting..why are we waiting...

Date: 2003-09-17 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
You made me curious to Gambit of course, then I saw some cartoons, and read a few comics and found out that you were actually onto something. :)
But Wolverine is my number one!

Also, the people behind the "X-Men" movies say that they want it to become a movie-series like "James Bond". Personally, I would love that.

(no subject)

Date: 2003-09-18 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
what?? we can't have it *all*??? lol..

Yea it's tough..I love Wolvie and even though he's gotten the most screentime, I still want more more more! yes, i'm greedy. ;> But I really do want to see the other characters. Both movies I left craving more. I have a feeling they'll be putting Gambit and Beast in the next one. Even if just as a smaller part. Maybe for fear that fans will hunt them down if they don't.. lol. The introduction is the tricky part though, I dunno. But I can see them making a love triangle with Gambit, Rogue, and Bobby. But who to play him??! Hmmm..
I'd be cool with Wolv getting a solo gig too.. just gotta have my fix one way or the other.:P And I can't imagine anyone else playing him.. noooo:(

Anyone read the X2 novel? Such a shame so many cool parts couldn't be included. Don't know why they couldn't let Jubilee show off *some* of her powers.

Re: Why are we waiting..why are we waiting...

Date: 2003-09-18 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
Well just as long as they keep it going..:) TV series would actually be a good idea cuz then you get a fix *every* week instead of waiting 3 years! too too long..

They can easily keep a movie series going with all the characters and storylines IMO.

Re: Why are we waiting..why are we waiting...

Date: 2003-09-18 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
Well, I wouldn't mind a TV show. Hell, bring it on! But they tried it once before, with "Generation X".

3 years is too friggin long, but I would rather let them spend 3 years and coming up with a great result, as supposed to giving them one year and then receiving crap. "Rush a torture, ruin a torture." :P

(no subject)

Date: 2003-09-18 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
I love Wolvie as well, he's my fave. So if they decide to make X4 without him, I'll demand a spin-off, with HUGH!!!

Hmm, two hours for an X-Men movie is too short, I don't want it to end, love these movies. Am runnig to the store the day they release the X2 DVD!

Haven't read the comic, it was waaaay to expensive for me, will have a look again later. Also I've heard about the cut stuff... they should have waited until after the movie, then released a full-vrs of the book.

Re: Why are we waiting..why are we waiting...

Date: 2003-09-22 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
too true! well just gives us something to look forward to.. ;) Yea that show did flop..hmm. Never did watch that show, what characters were they?? Still think though that if they did it right it would work. I mean c'mon! Maybe with the success of the movies they'll consider it.. :D

(no subject)

Date: 2003-09-22 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
Yea, a couple of hours of *just* Hugh and those muttonchops.. woo!! :P So glad that dvd's coming in Nov. Can only watch the first one so many times.. even as good as it is, lol.

I got the book luckily for my b-day recently.. it's so cool to read extra stuff. It's not the comic though, but a novel of the movie. Kinda cool to get inside the characters heads.. :)

Re: Why are we waiting..why are we waiting...

Date: 2003-09-24 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
I have some infor on "Generation X" on my web-page: http://www.xmenfan.angelcities.com

There were two "mad for tv" characters; Refrax & Buff, and then there was Jubilee, White Queen, Banshee, Skin, Mondo, and one that I can't remeber right now.

It was just a TV-movie, it was actually supposed to be a pilot for the show, but it never got picked up. And now they've made "X-Men: Evolution" instead.

But I would love a "X-Men" Tv-series if they could do it right!

(no subject)

Date: 2003-09-24 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
I'm soooooooooo looking forward to the X2 DVD, I even have a little coundown going... sad, but it gives me something to look forward to.

I didn't know there was a novelisation of X2!?! I've just heard about the comic-book! *Runs off to hunt for book*

Re: Why are we waiting..why are we waiting...

Date: 2003-09-27 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
Thanks for the scoop! however your website is down at the moment.. boo. :( so i'll check again later. Is this pilot available to see somewhere? I'm sure *someone* has it on ebay, lol.. but not worth paying for I bet. ;)

It's nice to have the toon around to watch, but live-action would be too cool. I'd be kinda surprised if they didn't attempt to make some money that way. I think maybe that pilot flopped cuz there wasn't enough people who knew about it. The movies *really* made a lot more fans.. and now they would have a bigger audience.

(no subject)

Date: 2003-09-27 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
Nothing wrong with a countdown! I'm just as ancy.. ;)

Yep there was a novel for the first movie too. Really just skimmed thru this one, heh.. but lots of good stuff!

Re: Why are we waiting..why are we waiting...

Date: 2003-09-29 10:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
It was probably a bandwith problem... but that kind of makes me happy, means that I'm getting traffic... am looking into a site with better bandwith, but then I've gotta pay.

You'd probably find "Generation X" on ebay. But the thing is that all the vrs sold there are copies, cos it was never released on video or anything, just for TV. But you can get your hands on it.

It's not too bad actually, but the bad-guy got on my nerves, he was like Jim Carrey on speed! Oh, and White Queens wig was just terrible, but other that that it's an ok movie, but far from anything you'd be willing to pay high prices for.

Maybe we should start a petition for a Tv-show?

Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-09-29 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
Hmmm, you might wanna chack out my lates post, either on my web-page or here in my LJ. Made me jump up and down for a while anyway. ;)

*Skips off to hunt for X-Men novels*

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-09-29 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
Ooh! Rejoice sounds promising!

*runs off to check it out*

Re: Why are we waiting..why are we waiting...

Date: 2003-09-29 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
Looks like it's back up so cool! Very nice site btw.. i will definetely be bookmarking it! Oh man only 4 more weeks til the dvd.. *woo!*

Yea I won't kill myself over gettin Gen X.. just curious to check it out. I did see a website on it and was surprised that Finola Hughes played Emma! Maybe cuz of the accent or something. Ah well, maybe one day i'll come across it. I have a friend who digs Emma cuz she kinda resembles her and has a 'tude too! Would be very cool if she does end up in a future movie. Not too many blonde comic ladies out there huh?

Yes write up that petition!! C'mon people..

Re: Why are we waiting..why are we waiting...

Date: 2003-09-30 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
Thanks. ;)

Gen X isn't worth the hassle, but I would keep an eye open for it on the telly. Seems like it popping up someplaces.
You could always check it out on IMdb.
I thoght Finola as Emma was just wierd... she wouldn't be my first choice for that part!

Re: Why are we waiting..why are we waiting...

Date: 2003-09-30 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
yea definetely. Sometimes I wonder about these casting people and their motives, lol. I remember there was this cool site before the first X-men came out, and it had lists of potential actors for each character.. can't find it now though, bleh.

Re: Why are we waiting..why are we waiting...

Date: 2003-10-02 12:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
I'm just scared with all the crazy ideas I've heard for Gambit... honestly I'd prefer an unknown.

Re: Why are we waiting..why are we waiting...

Date: 2003-10-02 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
I'm with you on that.. i'm kinda hoping for an unknown at this point. Maybe they'll hit gold again like they did with Jackman.. :)

Re: Why are we waiting..why are we waiting...

Date: 2003-10-04 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping, they've done well this far.

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-10-23 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
Happy with the news... I sure was. Hope they're gonna start working on X3 soon.

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-03 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
Yea i'm dying for new x-material! Hey isn't the X2 dvd coming out tomorrow??? Yays!

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-04 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
You're lucky, it doesn't come out here until November 10th. I've put down a deposit on it, so I'm gonna be there when the shop opens on monday. So happy I've got mondays off from school. :)
Can't wait to check out the DVD.
Did you get it? Is it any good? The extras n' stuff I mean?

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-04 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
Oh I spoke too soon! lol.. I *thought* it was the 2nd for some reason, but it's actually the 25th. So you get it sooner you lucky dog! Will have to be a thanksgiving treat for me, lol. Damn, and I was so looking forward to having it this week too. So *you'll* have to let me know how it is!! ;)

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-05 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on the DVD, will probably be watching it the entire day. ;)
Will of course let you know how it is.

Just wondering, is it ok, if I put you on my friends list? You can put me on yours as well if you want. :)

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-05 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
Yea sure! I'll go ahead and add you too.. :)

Thought i'd have to wait til next year, so i'm so glad! I do love the first one, but i've worn it out... lol. Looking forward to the extras too.. hope they have more bloopers!

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-05 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
I have both versions of the first one.
Used a small fortune getting the DVD from the states, when it was first released, it was either that or wait another month.
And then I bought the 1.5 one. I'm a rabid fan, can't help it, have watched it waaaay to many times, so it's gonna be good to get something new, can't wait until Monday... 5 days to go. :)
From: [identity profile] beluga.livejournal.com
Hi sweetie. Can't wait to see ya. -Bring the x-men 2 dvd will ya? We can swap: you'll get to see Hornblower, I get to see Wolverine.. =both happy.

xx
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
I know I'm a sick bitch. ;)
Of course I'm bringin' X2 back home! And I wanna see Hornblower as well. Ah! 4 days till I've got X2!!

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-07 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
Oh of course.. GOTTA have both versions.. and no waiting! lol! Geez some of my fav movies I have like 3 different versions cuz they keep releasing updated dvds! makes me crazy, but can't *not* buy it. ;P

Will be waiting for your update! :D

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-07 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
Love your icon by the way.

Yeah, I went a little crazy with the "X-Men" DVD, that's actually the only one I've got two versions off, I usually sell off one version if I buy a new one, but they're both so cool that I just couldn't do that.

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-07 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
Thanks, yea i just lurve him with that cigar too.. :>~

Well x-men does have that effect on us.. hee!

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-08 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
Hehe, so it does.
Must admit that I'm a sick puppy... bought dog-tags last year and wore them when we went to see "X2". A little sad, but I had fun with it. :)

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-10 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
Ahh.. but do you have a moveable Wolvie doll?? lol.. heh ;>

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-10 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
No, don't have the doll. The dog-tags are actually the most X-men like thing I have... Have been considering a Wolverine bobby-head to have in my car though...

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-10 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
I think i have now about 3 different wolvie figures.. ha! I think I saw the bobble head one.. he looked kinda freaky! lol.. :P

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-12 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
Yeah, the bobble head looked kind of weird. The only thing that's holding me back, besides the price, is the fact that I share my car with my dad. So I'm not sure how seriously the students and his co-workers would take him if he had that on the dash-board.

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-12 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
lol! oh that would be funny... :P

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-13 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguem.livejournal.com
Hehe, yeah I can just picture him driving into the parking space with that thing. Lol.

Re: Wolverine fans rejoice!

Date: 2003-11-14 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygerx.livejournal.com
*giggle* :P

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